JohnPrusak
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Over on the home page, we've kicked off the first ever (and likely annual) ATV Magazine Reader's Choice Awards, where we ask you and other readers to name the best ATV in a number of categories.
This week, we're launching balloting in the Big Bore Utility class -- the nominees are the Grizz 7, Brute Force 750, Thundercat, Rincon, Sportsman XP 850, Outlander 8, Mud Pro 1000, King Quad 750, Sportsman 8, Outlander 650, Cat 700 and BF 650. Go vote, and you can either spout off about it on here or in the comments section with the story.
We'll have seven different classes we'll be launching over the summer, so we'll cover pretty much everything. Have fun with it!
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JohnPrusak wrote:Over on the home page, we've kicked off the first ever (and likely annual) ATV Magazine Reader's Choice Awards, where we ask you and other readers to name the best ATV in a number of categories.
This week, we're launching balloting in the Big Bore Utility class -- the nominees are the Grizz 7, Brute Force 750, Thundercat, Rincon, Sportsman XP 850, Outlander 8, Mud Pro 1000, King Quad 750, Sportsman 8, Outlander 650, Cat 700 and BF 650. Go vote, and you can either spout off about it on here or in the comments section with the story.
We'll have seven different classes we'll be launching over the summer, so we'll cover pretty much everything. Have fun with it! It's really getting hard to pick a best machine. It's funny that almost all these machines have gone through major updates, over the last several years. A lot of these machines excel at one thing, then stumble at another. The Rincon is probably the oldest design in this assembly of quads. Just the fact it competes in this group, is a testament to it's quality. I won't say its the best machine at anything, but it still does everything well. I give it the most consistent machine award.
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the brute force 650 just a rebadged prarie but still a great machine just wish it had efi that's my pick and can be bought new real cheap even cheaper than some 500 class machines
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mtgade
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What is a big bore I think it should have at lest 60hp.
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cchagros
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mtgade wrote:What is a big bore I think it should have at lest 60hp.
Why not take the word literally? The word "bore" is a unit of mrasurement, not power output. Looks like the Mag considers this any machine with 650ccs or more. I'd concur.
2010 Honda Rincon, Red, Bone Stock
2005 Suzuki King Quad, Yellow, also bone stock.
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Over30
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The term 'big bore' should be limited to v-twins at this point.
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Over30 wrote:The term 'big bore' should be limited to v-twins at this point. Thats a interesting comment our local Yamaha dealer use to ride with us until we started ridding 800's .Know he is back with a turbo 700 Grizz.It runs about 13lb of boost.
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mtgade wrote:Over30 wrote:The term 'big bore' should be limited to v-twins at this point. Thats a interesting comment our local Yamaha dealer use to ride with us until we started ridding 800's .Know he is back with a turbo 700 Grizz.It runs about 13lb of boost. Was he banished from you're riding group, before he got the turbo? When does this tirade of mighty v-twin, 800 cc power end Bear? It is nice to have that power for certain conditions; but you don't need it for every application. My little Big Bear 400 could rock climb like a mountain goat, with a pitiful 386cc engine and no diff lock. Hills so steep, I was almost kissing the front rack. It's called rock "crawling" you don't need 71 hp, you need low gears and technique. Where does you're group ride? Abandoned Air Force runways, flat and straight for miles? I bet you drive a Buick.
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GreyGrizz wrote:mtgade wrote:Over30 wrote:The term 'big bore' should be limited to v-twins at this point. Thats a interesting comment our local Yamaha dealer use to ride with us until we started ridding 800's .Know he is back with a turbo 700 Grizz.It runs about 13lb of boost. Was he banished from you're riding group, before he got the turbo? When does this tirade of mighty v-twin, 800 cc power end Bear? It is nice to have that power for certain conditions; but you don't need it for every application. My little Big Bear 400 could rock climb like a mountain goat, with a pitiful 386cc engine and no diff lock. Hills so steep, I was almost kissing the front rack. It's called rock "crawling" you don't need 71 hp, you need low gears and technique. Where does you're group ride? Abandoned Air Force runways, flat and straight for miles? I bet you drive a Buick. I love it when you flat landers comment on the ridding in the high county.To start with a engine losses about 3% of its power every 1000ft so most of our ridding is at 7000ft+ . That means a turbo can more than make up power loss.
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mtgade wrote:GreyGrizz wrote:mtgade wrote:Over30 wrote:The term 'big bore' should be limited to v-twins at this point. Thats a interesting comment our local Yamaha dealer use to ride with us until we started ridding 800's .Know he is back with a turbo 700 Grizz.It runs about 13lb of boost. Was he banished from you're riding group, before he got the turbo? When does this tirade of mighty v-twin, 800 cc power end Bear? It is nice to have that power for certain conditions; but you don't need it for every application. My little Big Bear 400 could rock climb like a mountain goat, with a pitiful 386cc engine and no diff lock. Hills so steep, I was almost kissing the front rack. It's called rock "crawling" you don't need 71 hp, you need low gears and technique. Where does you're group ride? Abandoned Air Force runways, flat and straight for miles? I bet you drive a Buick. I love it when you flat landers comment on the ridding in the high county.To start with a engine losses about 3% of its power every 1000ft so most of our ridding is at 7000ft+ . That means a turbo can more than make up power loss. True, our mountains are no comparison to the Rocky's. But they can be challenging never the less. There's less exposed rock, because their older, but there's a lot of surface water and a thin coating of dirt. So you might have to deal with mud, climbing a Mountain. More trees, exposed roots are especially challenging when wet. So bring that B.A. 800 to NH, I'll show you the devil's den trail in New Durham, a 3000 ft climb in 1/2 a mile. Bring extra oxygen, not for the quad, for yourself. It's a workout.
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